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Hari Bol Prabhus! PAMHO.
I've just been wondering recently, I've often seen deities of Sri Giri-raja with garlands, of what look like red and white seeds, (please see photo in gallery) I was just wondering what these are, does anyone know? and also which deities can wear them?
Many Thanks,
Krish.
P.S. the photo comes from:
www.iskcon-london.org/temple/...dex.html - check it out for daily Darshan of Sri Sri Radha Londonisvara, it now has a link to larger pnotos!
I've just been wondering recently, I've often seen deities of Sri Giri-raja with garlands, of what look like red and white seeds, (please see photo in gallery) I was just wondering what these are, does anyone know? and also which deities can wear them?
Many Thanks,
Krish.
P.S. the photo comes from:
www.iskcon-london.org/temple/...dex.html - check it out for daily Darshan of Sri Sri Radha Londonisvara, it now has a link to larger pnotos!
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 7:18 AMthese are the vaijayanti mala necklaces (red and white seeds) given to krsna by the gopis. u can put the on giriraj with no problem. they are often used to decorate govardhana silas. in truth since all deities of krsna are him directly, u can put these malas on him, as it is within this lila.
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 8:46 AMThanks Manu Prabhu, much appreciated. but as ever, I have a few more questions(!):
I thought a vaijayanti mala was a garland made out of 5 or more types of flowers / colours of flower, and usually falls below Krishna's knee, can this seed garland also be known as a vaijayanti mala?
As this is an exchange between the Gopis and Krishna, would I be correct in saying to offer to Mahaprabhu, this would be rasa-bhasa?
Also, what then is 'gunja-mala' didn't Mahaprabhu give this to Raghunatha Dasa Goswami when he also gave a govardhana sila for worship? - I thought gunja mala was, as Prabhupada has stated, a garland of small conch shells, but I have also heard devotees say it is these seeds?
Also, do these seeds have any specific meaning / representaion?
Finally, does anyone know the botanical name for the seeds used in this mala?
Hari Bol!
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 9:20 AMyou are most welcome prabhu.
but i was wrong indeed. you are correct the vaijayanti mala is the garland of five flowers given to lord krsna, i just double checked in my books. and the gunja mala ARE the red and white seed garlands that represent service to radharani. im sorry for the mistake
mahaprabhu did give a conch shell garland AND govardhana sila to raghunatha dasa goswami after 3 years. he was to worship it with tulasi manjaris and the 2 leaves beside, and flowers and water. i myself have never seen mahaprabhu with this mala, although he DID wear them upon recieving them as gifts from sankarananda saraswati. i was also trained to always put a peacock feather/fan/mukut for gaura nitai (prabhupada also instructed this) but not everyone does this, so i think it depends on your personal meditation. i have always, however, seen the silas decorated with the gunja malas, from belgium to nyc and from new vrndavan to LA
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 9:35 AMManu Prabhu, indeed, it's true, Mahaprabhu did wear this necklace, I remember the past-time now!
I just ask about offering to Mahaprabhu, as @ Newcaslte recently one of the congregation has donated a garland, and we only have Panca Tattva deities. - so was wondering whether to offer. That and the fact I'm now working @ Kew's milennium seed bank now, and remember seeing these seeds in the cold store - it's amazing how Krishna appears everywhere to a devotee - I try to see him more and more, in all things I do!
Also, I've just seen your blog - I like the necklace, I take it this is from your collection! - very beautiful, any chance I could see some more?
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Thu, November 10, 2005 - 9:40 AMsure prabhu! and yes this is from my personal work. pm me with ur addy and ill send u some pics. for some reason i cannot upload them on tribe. too big i guess....
and i think its fine then if u offer to panca tattva. just keep in ur consciousness that mahaprabhu is playing the role of a devotee, that definately represents service to radharani, i.e. the gunja mala.
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Tue, December 26, 2006 - 5:39 AM--IMPORTANT--
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Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
In the course of an unrelated research I have just happened to learn of one important, albeit rarely known fact about gunja-malas -- those necklaces of scarlet-and-black or/and white glossy seeds that are widely used in Govardhana-sila worship as representing Srimati Radharani.
Lord Caitanya held such garlands in high esteem, worshiped them and gave one of them along with a Govardhana-sila to Srila Raghunatha dasa Goswami (refer to CC Antya 6.307).
However, the important fact is that the seeds of gunja (Abrus precatorius, also known as Jequirity, Crab's Eye, Rosary Pea, Precatory bean, or Indian Licorice), are extremely poisonous. "Although they are unlikely to harm if swallowed raw and unbroken, as they have a hard seed coat" (1), but if they are pierced (as in Deity necklaces), crushed or chewed on, their ingestion can be fatal, with no known antidote to the toxin abrin contained in them.
Suffice it to say that even "jewelry-making with gunja seeds is dangerous, as there have been cases of death by a finger-prick while boring the seeds for beadwork".(2)
By sending this to the public forum I intent to create a general awareness among devotees about the potential risk associated with the use of gunja-malas -- especially as Govardhan-sila and salagram worship, where they are mainly used, both seem to become increasingly common in ISKCON.
Minor children, who are easily attracted by bright and colorful things and often want to taste them, may be at particular risk if there are gunja-malas kept within their reach.(3)
All the above should not be seen as compromising the sacredness of the gunja-malas for us as followers of Srila Caitanya Mahaprabhu. However, we have to keep in mind their extreme toxicity and exercise extra caution dealing with them on a day-to-day basis.
For instance, the idea to swallow broken pieces of such a garland as maha-prasadam may not be a very good one.
However, if swallowed, it is "best managed by vigorous gastric decontamination with activated charcoal, followed by use of cathartics such as magnesium citrate". (4,5) Seek medical attention immediately.
Your servant,
Madana-mohana das
(1) www.asanltr.com/newsletter...icinRev.htm
(2) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrus_precatorius
(3) www.botanical.com/botanical...ind33.html
(4) www.asanltr.com/newsletter...icinRev.htm
(5) www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/abri...-62-0pr.asp -
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Wed, December 27, 2006 - 10:24 AMglad i read this. they look yummy! -
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Sat, January 20, 2007 - 12:36 PMHaribol!
I have heard that offering a gunja mala is like offering a thousand flower garlands to the deities. Has anyone heard of this?
I often place a gunja mala on Srimati Radharani's feet, or on Krsna's turban, even though both places may not be directly visible (often the gunja beads don't match with outfits). But I offer these in place of flowers...And of course, they always look nice for all types of shilas...
SriRKd
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Sun, January 21, 2007 - 1:17 PMI thought gunja malas were exclusivley for Sri Krsna and not for Radharani? That's what I always though anyway..in any bhajan I've heard they refer to Krsnas gunja mala, eg, madhurashtakam. Like you said, when I've seen them they've mostly been on Sri Giriraja. -
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Re: Sri Giri-raja's necklaces
Tue, January 23, 2007 - 8:31 AMgunja mala- good for wearing, not for eating :-)
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